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x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: half are in one room
x V DoGG x: lets invite the rest
kabev1: well let's go to the other then
kabev1: Any time they want to send the invite
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Eceguru: we here?
sudigh: Hey I just opened another chat room. Which one do we use ?
kabev1: let's go to yours
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sudigh: Ok
x V DoGG x: wait
kabev1: invite us
x V DoGG x: everyone is already in this one
Eceguru: lets stay here then
x V DoGG x: stay
kabev1: done stay here
sudigh: ok
sudigh: I'll close mine then.
Eceguru: kevin coming?
sudigh: can someone call kevin ?
x V DoGG x: kabe - you have your phone list around
x V DoGG x: i can't find mine
sudigh: I just sent Kevin to join us
Eceguru: me too
kabev1: Mine's in email
Abhi327 has entered the room.
Abhi327: hello everyone.
kabev1: hey
sudigh: hi
Eceguru: hi
Abhi327: sorry i'm late. please check your mailboxes for the document
kabev1: Abhi, can u also send it to kabev@hotmail.com
Abhi327: sure
Abhi327: ok you should have it now
Eceguru: how about we schedule a review of it
Eceguru: we have a requirements doc yet?
Abhi327: nope we are waiting up on kevin.
Abhi327: has anyone heard from kevin as yet
Eceguru: no
Eceguru: i sent him an email earlier in the week and today with no response
Eceguru: have others been able to contact him lately?
Abhi327: can someone call his place find out
Abhi327: i got an email from him about 10 days back. he said he was going to be free once the holidays start.
Abhi327: does someone have his phone number. i can try calling him up unless someone would like to do it themselves.
Eceguru: looking for his number
x V DoGG x: i called his cell
x V DoGG x: nonone answered
x V DoGG x: i am trying his work now
Abhi327: thanks vivek
x V DoGG x: sorry i forgot to tell you guys, i tried it a while ago :-)
Eceguru: thanks
kabev1: Does anyone have any Source Code to put in CVS/
x V DoGG x: didn't get him at work
x V DoGG x: i think we should start
x V DoGG x: does anyone have his home number?
sudigh: no
Eceguru: no
Abhi327: the document does not have the class diagrams in there. However, putting the class diagrams is a mere cosmetic change. The UI has the classes already well defined and so does the protocol layer.
starkiller76: kabe, did you get what I sent you
Abhi327: I'll put the class diagrams in by tonight.
kabev1: I didn't see it as of 6:00 CST
Abhi327: i belive we can upload our documentation to sourceforge as well right
sudigh: yes
Abhi327: kabe should we send it to you
kabev1: But I can't check until after the chat session since I would have to go behind the firewall
kabev1: Correct
kabev1: I am going to have them grab the code from my CVS at work,
Eceguru: send docs to you kabe or upload?
kabev1: For now me, but Abhi you need to give me permission on the site
x V DoGG x: abhi
x V DoGG x: did you send me the doc
x V DoGG x: i haven't recieved it yet
Abhi327: hmm..yes i did send it to you.
x V DoGG x: nvermind
kabev1: check your ieee account
Eceguru: ok, i'll send you, kabe, the test plan now
x V DoGG x: just got it
kabev1: ok
kabev1: I will prob put the docs in CVS for now, instead of the docs section
kabev1: So, agenda tonight?
Eceguru: how much time do we have left?
kabev1: tonight or semester?
starkiller76: about two weeks
Eceguru: semester
starkiller76: I have code that searches, shares, and downloads files
starkiller76: I used the CMS
Eceguru: ok
starkiller76: I tried to send it to Kabe today
Abhi327: cool.
starkiller76: but it only searches based on a keyword
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: searches files based on keyword?
kabev1: let me check to see if I got it be back
starkiller76: that is how CMS does it
starkiller76: we need to write our own content management clasees
starkiller76: Classes
sudigh: based on author name, track name ....
starkiller76: exactly
sudigh: content management classes would contain the configuration info besides other stuff.
Abhi327: its a good starting point nevertheless. we can model our Service layer based on it.
sudigh: sure.
Abhi327: i think we are in good shape as far as the UI is concerned
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Abhi327: kabe and vivek have it figured out
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kabev1: I received Isaac's test plan, and Abhi's Design Doc
sudigh: Abhishek and David, are we meeting tomorrow for the Services-Protocol interfaces ?
x V DoGG x: yes....
starkiller76: yes
x V DoGG x: how much do we plan to have implemented by the end of this semester?
sudigh: time ? 6.30pm PST ?
Abhi327: the major work will come to implement the services and provide wrappers on top of the instantp2p protocol layer and those wrappers will essentially serve as our core layer api
x V DoGG x: so far we have stub code for gui and an api defined between gui and services
Abhi327: sudipta we have homework 3 meeting wednesday at 8:30 CST
sudigh: is that final Abhishek?
Abhi327: i believe so
Abhi327: lets finish our meeting tonight
Abhi327: we can talk about our meeting times later on
kabev1: Anyone heard back from Guru?
Abhi327: team, what did you think about the email
Abhi327: was it too harsh
sudigh: I guess they wanna know if it is suitable time for their partner at India.
kabev1: Nope
kabev1: too kind ;-)
Abhi327: i guess:-) especially since we still haven't heard from him
sudigh: I think it is absolutely fine.
starkiller76: I just sent everyone the code I was talking about
Abhi327: ok so whats the plan moving forward and the agenda for the night
sudigh: thanks Dave.
starkiller76: sorry to change the topic
Eceguru: thanks
kabev1: Curious, what has Prof Johnson said about Guru?
Abhi327: 1) GURU - take up the issue with the course staff and professor Johnson
Abhi327: haven't heard from them as yet
kabev1: Are they aware of it?
Abhi327: Yes i sent it to howard and he'll be talking to professor johnson. thats as far as i know
Eceguru: ok
Abhi327: if he has his office hours tomorrow, i'll give him a buzz.
sudigh: Abhishek I'm going through your design doc, looks good.
kabev1: I agree, good work
x V DoGG x: quick question
Abhi327: needs a lot more work . but its enough to get everyone started
x V DoGG x: for hw3
x V DoGG x: are you guys using the transition from use cases to class diagrams
x V DoGG x: for your review
x V DoGG x: ?
x V DoGG x: if not, what are you using?
Eceguru: i'm still working with kevin to determine what to use
kabev1: ok so what are we accomplishing tonight?
Eceguru: does anyone know of kevin's progress on the requirements doc
Eceguru: we definately need that done and reviewed by end of semester
Abhi327: 2) Kevin -- someone should take it up to get in touch with im
Abhi327: yes i agree
Eceguru: actually, so we can review the other docs as well
Eceguru: i'll get in touch with him
Eceguru: if i can't i'll write up something for the requirements
Eceguru: then we can schedule a review
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: isaac do you want to try to contact kevin also?
Eceguru: i am going to do that first
x V DoGG x: since you will function as his back up
x V DoGG x: ?
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: cool
Eceguru: if i can't reach him i'll do it
Abhi327: issac that is great, but the bigger issue is to get in touch with the rest of the team memebers. we'll need them anyhow to make the final submission. so we should keep that in mind
Eceguru: obviously i'd hope to get in touch with him :-)
Eceguru: i'll try to give him a call at work tomorrow
Abhi327: cool:-)
Abhi327: 3) What are we accomplishing for just this week
Eceguru: need to get requirements done
Abhi327: a) requirements doc. done
Eceguru: and we should try to schedule some reviews for next week
Abhi327: b) documents, code checked in to CVS
Eceguru: i think it'd be good to submit errors and defects in our docs to the bug tracker on sourceforge
Eceguru: then we can show some bugs for the final submission
Eceguru: just an idea
Abhi327: c) abhi, issac to get together and work out the services layer details and implement some framework
Eceguru: yeah
kabev1: I'll get CVS up
sudigh: david, Abhishek and I will get together for Services-Protocol interfaces.
Abhi327: d) services-core layer interface meet to finalize the proposed API
x V DoGG x: Do we need to have a final class diagram
x V DoGG x: that is a compilation of everyone's pieces
x V DoGG x: ?
x V DoGG x: i can take care of that
x V DoGG x: if it is needed
x V DoGG x: i will obviously be reusing much of what is already up
Abhi327: vivek, i am already working on it. i'll be putting that in to the design document. i intend to split the class diagrams in terms of layers
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: great
sudigh: Top level use case daig should be fine I think, rather than a top level class diag.
kabev1: Do we have artifacts for each iteration?
Abhi327: e) Abhi to give Kabe project admin priv. to setup CVS
kabev1: Not just CVS, the docs sectin as well
Abhi327: f) What are achieving for this semester ????
Abhi327: i'll give you the priveledges that will let you setup everything. you'll be the superuser:-)
kabev1: I rule ;-)
kabev1: So should we have a use case implemented? Or is that too much?
Eceguru: i think we are close to it, aren't we
Eceguru: or at least dave is :-)
x V DoGG x: it sounds like we have pieces of one
kabev1: I think that would be good to have implemeted then
x V DoGG x: but nothing from top to bottom (gui -> services -> core)
kabev1: Or should we just have the skelton code?
Abhi327: i think we are already doing the autodetect
Abhi327: we just need to put the support framework in the services and
Abhi327: UI for it
kabev1: Cool then anyone against completeing that before the end of the semester?
Abhi327: saving configuration info is another usecase that can be implemented
x V DoGG x: yeah, on the UI side.... it is a matter of creating some crude sscreens
x V DoGG x: and starting the implementation
kabev1: Vivek, I should be getting JBuilder tomorrow, so I can help a lot more
x V DoGG x: ok
Abhi327: as long as we work out the final piece of API interface b/w services and core we'll be in good shape. with the API's developed, we'll have a lot more ease developing the system.
x V DoGG x: kabe and i can split up the screens for configuation and auto detect (essentially displaying a list of available hosts right?)
x V DoGG x: hopefully we can knock that out
kabev1: Here's what I think would be good to do.... Can Someone make a list of all the artifacts we have for each iteration
x V DoGG x: Deliverables: 1) Project plan 2) Design doc 3) CM 4) Requirements 5)Testing
x V DoGG x: I believe that was the last thing discussed on 11/18
x V DoGG x: is that still accuate
Abhi327: you have the priv. on sourceforge for the project.
Abhi327: yes that sounds accurate
kabev1: Thanks
x V DoGG x: should i add a class diagram
x V DoGG x: is anyone working anything else
Abhi327: and code ofcourse
x V DoGG x: 6) Code
starkiller76: speaking of code
Abhi327: is class diagram part of the design docs or should it be separate
x V DoGG x: i will add spots for them on our website
x V DoGG x: please link your docs as appropriate
sudigh: class diags are part of design doc
kabev1: But, the deliverables need to show how they matured from iteration to iteration
Eceguru: i can't think of anything else
x V DoGG x: ok, but i was going to recommend keeping them sepearte
x V DoGG x: so it will be listed in our artifacts
x V DoGG x: as a "deliverable"
sudigh: Corresponding to each layer in the design doc, the class diags go alongwith.
Abhi327: i think it'll help to have our website on sourceforge kinda done nicely to score some points on our submission.
x V DoGG x: i agree
x V DoGG x: i can take that one....
x V DoGG x: i will try to clean up what we have on the wiki
Eceguru: sounds good
kabev1: I'll work w/ Vivek also
Abhi327: ok 7) website development and maint. ---vivek
x V DoGG x: and place it up there
Abhi327: and kabe
x V DoGG x: so we should make a decision
x V DoGG x: about implementing the use case #1
x V DoGG x: will we or will we not do it
x V DoGG x: from gui down to core
x V DoGG x: if we commit to this
Abhi327: do we need to move our meeting logs and stuff over to the project website
Abhi327: i say yes we should commit to making that work
x V DoGG x: i wouldn't waste time with that
x V DoGG x: they are fairly well organized on the wiki
x V DoGG x: we can link back to the wiki for that
starkiller76: i agree
x V DoGG x: in a frame of the browser
Abhi327: ok. we'll put a link from the project website to our wifi page.
x V DoGG x: i expect to clean up our from page
x V DoGG x: well.... i think we should kill the frontpage on our wifi wiki and point people to the sourceforge page
Abhi327: so are we commiting to implement autodetect usecase or not ?
x V DoGG x: and then refer back to appropriate wiki's in the main frame as appropriate (to eliminate use less work)
starkiller76: autodetect should not be hard
x V DoGG x: kabe and i can take care of the gui
Eceguru: i think we should
starkiller76: basically it is peerdiscovery
x V DoGG x: who will commit to the services?
sudigh: yes we should be able to commit for auto detect
Abhi327: abhi and issac
x V DoGG x: to essentially store the information from peerdiscovery
x V DoGG x: so that kabe and i can query out from the serivces api
Abhi327: abhi and issac for services. issac is that ok ?
x V DoGG x: i guess we need to add that to the servicesapi
Eceguru: ok
x V DoGG x: dave is the core layer already covered as long we implement an interface from core to services?
kabev1: gotta go guys
kabev1: sorry
starkiller76: should be
starkiller76: the core and services layers really work together
starkiller76: it is hard to seperate them
Abhi327: kabe you should have all the priv. to work on sourceforge. let me know if there is an issue with it.
kabev1: will do c-ya
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starkiller76: can we talk about implemention for a second
Abhi327: dave, we can sit together and identify the api for the core layer.
starkiller76: ok
starkiller76: has anyone used SunONE?
Abhi327: i put some in the design document already
starkiller76: it is available for free on Sun's website
Eceguru: no, i haven't
x V DoGG x: nope
starkiller76: It has made compiling the java code a ton easier
x V DoGG x: i use codewarrior and visual cafe
starkiller76: probably the about the same thing
x V DoGG x: yep, just $1k more
x V DoGG x: :-)
x V DoGG x: on visual cafe
x V DoGG x: ok......
x V DoGG x: so we have commited to use case 1
starkiller76: is anyone interested?
x V DoGG x: i think that is enough as far as implementation... right?
x V DoGG x: unless someone wants to sign up to #2....
Eceguru: i think we should see how #1 goes
x V DoGG x: agree'
starkiller76: I already have code that autodetects
starkiller76: do you want it?
Eceguru: i'd prefer to clean up the docs and stuff over adding extra cases
x V DoGG x: agree'd
starkiller76: I can alter it to feed Strings to the GUI interface
sudigh: We need to do some coding for content management David.
Abhi327: sure you could send it to kabe so that we have it on sourcefoge.
starkiller76: okay
starkiller76: are we using the default peer group or specifying are own?
sudigh: I would like to discuss with Abhihsek little on Services and then come up with some APIs for content management
x V DoGG x: Sudipta - that can probably wait if we want to concentrate on integrating the application layers to work
sudigh: lets use the default peer group.
x V DoGG x: someone needs to bring all the layers together
sudigh: sure.
x V DoGG x: to make sure the api's function as expected
x V DoGG x: and stuff works
x V DoGG x: so we can "truely" deliver on use cased #1
Eceguru: sounds good
sudigh: sounds good.
x V DoGG x: does anyone want to be in charge of integration
starkiller76: I can
sudigh: David and I are doing protocol to services.
x V DoGG x: ok... makes sense since dave has covered much of the underlying code
Abhi327: lets see how much we get done and whoever is done first will take up integration
x V DoGG x: and will understand the services/code api with sudipta
x V DoGG x: dave - you can work with me if you find any issues with the gui
starkiller76: okay
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: is there an updated iteration#3 plan
starkiller76: no
starkiller76: I will update it with the info from tonights meeting
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: sounds good
starkiller76: I need to specify iteration #4 for the next two weeks
x V DoGG x: cuz i don't think we are on track to complete it as originally panned
x V DoGG x: ok
starkiller76: i don't think so either
Eceguru: yeah
starkiller76: the iteration plan was a little optimistic
x V DoGG x: you may want to add the artifacts as deliverables in the iteration #3
x V DoGG x: so that it shows we accomplished something
starkiller76: ok
x V DoGG x: artifacts being the first iteration class diagrams, design doc, and test plan
starkiller76: I am also working on iteration plans for the first two
starkiller76: after the fact of course
starkiller76: but at least that gives us more deliverables
Eceguru: yeah
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: do we need to discuss the design document?
Eceguru: i think we should try to generate as many deliverables, no matter how small, as possible
Abhi327: could everyone send me the feedback on design document as soon as you get a chance. i'll integrate everyone's feedback to the doc and integrate class diagrams
Eceguru: lets call it a review
starkiller76: ok
Eceguru: and then we can have the meeting log as a review deliverable
Eceguru: showing we do reviews
Abhi327: sounds good.
starkiller76: so what do we need done by next monday?
Eceguru: requirenments
starkiller76: updated iteration plan
starkiller76: iteration plan 1 & 2
Abhi327: updated design document with feedback and class diagrams.
starkiller76: updated risk assessment
Abhi327: worked out core api and services details
x V DoGG x: sounds like a plan
x V DoGG x: are we done then?
Eceguru: think so
Abhi327: sounds like it
Eceguru: bye all
sudigh: ok, bye everybody.
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starkiller76: bye
Abhi327: goodnight team.
x V DoGG x: oh yeah
x V DoGG x: one more thing
x V DoGG x: we have to finish the website stuff
Abhi327: :-)
x V DoGG x: i knew i had something on the list
x V DoGG x: i just couldn't remember what
x V DoGG x: :
Abhi327: glad you rememberd
Abhi327: :-)
x V DoGG x: abhi - are you gonna call me?
Abhi327: yup phone number again please. i closed the window by mistake
x V DoGG x: 8475142771
Abhi327: vivek i'll call you in a couple of minutes
x V DoGG x: ok
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sudigh: anyone doing the logs toady ?
sudigh: today ?
x V DoGG x: yep
x V DoGG x: i got em
sudigh: ok. cool
x V DoGG x: 8) Add a review of the api
x V DoGG x: 9) API
sudigh: also start integration of the various layers.
sudigh: 10th point maybe.
sudigh: ok bye.
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x V DoGG x: gui API add notify peersVectorUpdated
x V DoGG x: getPeerList() -> getPeerNodeObjectVector()
x V DoGG x: change all node naming to peer
x V DoGG x: change nodeObject to PeerInfo
x V DoGG x: Change all "knownNodes" to "trustedNode"
x V DoGG x: change ConfigurationInfo from getKnownNodesOnly to isSharingWithTrustedNodesOnly
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