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x V DoGG x: mine was good
x V DoGG x: how was yours?
starkiller76: good
starkiller76: been busy at work though
x V DoGG x: same here
starkiller76: I am still job hunting in my spare time too
x V DoGG x: ahhh
michaelwalsh327 has entered the room.
starkiller76: not the most fun but I want to get something software related
x V DoGG x: yeah
x V DoGG x: makes sense
x V DoGG x: starkiller = dave bowen; mike meet dave; dave meet mike
michaelwalsh327: HI, dave.
michaelwalsh327: Gradebook is now updated from last semester.
Eceguru has entered the room.
Eceguru: hi
x V DoGG x: does it have the distributions?
starkiller76: hey mike
michaelwalsh327: yep. well, not all, but for the final and overall grade
michaelwalsh327: not on project, sadly.
michaelwalsh327: brb
x V DoGG x: ok
michaelwalsh327: ok, i'm back
Eceguru: is kabe with you vivek?
x V DoGG x: nope
x V DoGG x: he isn't here yet
Eceguru: oh ok
x V DoGG x: i am having tourble with the web
Eceguru: brb
x V DoGG x: is there anyone else
x V DoGG x: who has joined the group
michaelwalsh327: yes.
michaelwalsh327: Srinivasa (Srini) Kattragadda
x V DoGG x: hmm
kabev1 has entered the room.
Eceguru: i'm back
kabev1: hey all
x V DoGG x: ok
michaelwalsh327: He has not yet added himself to the wiki, but I assumne he's the guy who write to us asking if he should join.
x V DoGG x: lets get started
x V DoGG x: yeah
x V DoGG x: we can email him next time
kabev1: Vivek, are u leading this meeting?
x V DoGG x: Agenda (feel free to add): 1) Modify roles?
x V DoGG x: 2) Discuss assignement #1
x V DoGG x: 3) General project related plans/questions
x V DoGG x: sure
michaelwalsh327: 4) Project overview for new guy
x V DoGG x: i can continue playing the role of the meeting leader/arbitrator.....
x V DoGG x: and also do the minutes
x V DoGG x: how about everyone elses roles
Eceguru: i want to do code this time around
starkiller76: I think we all will
kabev1: We will all do code
Eceguru: but the test things are good for me still
x V DoGG x: yep
x V DoGG x: ok
michaelwalsh327: Couldn't tell from the Wiki - is this a RUP or XP project?
x V DoGG x: can someone bring up the roles from our previous minutes
michaelwalsh327: ALso, I assume that the wiki is no longer the central place for project docs
x V DoGG x: so we can figure out who we lost?
x V DoGG x: yeah....
x V DoGG x: we actually had zip file
kabev1: I will continuing as the CM, after correct Mike
kabev1: oops.... 2 thoughts in 1 message
x V DoGG x: that kabe was maintainging
starkiller76: I can continue as project manager
michaelwalsh327: This is great - I had to do just about every role on my last project.
starkiller76: I could also act as architect since we lost Abhi
starkiller76: Either one is fine
x V DoGG x: dave -
starkiller76: yep
x V DoGG x: perhaps you can continue as project manager
x V DoGG x: i can take on architect for now
x V DoGG x: we can rotate it around
starkiller76: sounds good
x V DoGG x: when we get to underlying code
michaelwalsh327: (so this is RUP, despite the XP arguments Wiki?)
kabev1: I think Vivek should act as Arch. for now
x V DoGG x: yes
Eceguru: yes, is RUP
x V DoGG x: ok
michaelwalsh327: ok, we've got someone taking care of PM, archictect, CM, testing,
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: i am still trying to bring up the wiki
kabev1: What's left for mike?
michaelwalsh327: where are all of the docs?
x V DoGG x: the wiki had our roles
x V DoGG x: on it
Eceguru: in a zip file and ftp site right now, right?
x V DoGG x: and it seems that the "meeting notes & agendas" wiki has dissappeared
michaelwalsh327: ok, so all code and docs are in that zip file?
x V DoGG x: SEcourse contains no page titled: "Meeting Notes & Agendas"
x V DoGG x: hmmm
x V DoGG x: did we have it in our summary doc
x V DoGG x: anyone else have a problem with the meeting notes and agenda page?
Eceguru: i did
Eceguru: we had all the logs on it
Eceguru: i wonder what happened?
x V DoGG x: i got the roles out of the synopsis
michaelwalsh327: broken link. gop to
michaelwalsh327: http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcours e/Meeting+Notes+&+Agendas
x V DoGG x: yeah, that is messed up
x V DoGG x: it was there at the end of the semester
x V DoGG x: well
michaelwalsh327: <-- already helpful
x V DoGG x: here are the remaining roles
kabev1: hmmm.... I can access it
x V DoGG x: wierd
michaelwalsh327: The link I put up there above works, while the one from the wiki is broken.
x V DoGG x: yeah
x V DoGG x: cool
x V DoGG x: thanks
starkiller76: I updated the wiki
x V DoGG x: ok... we lost the project admin
x V DoGG x: and the architect
starkiller76: the link works again
x V DoGG x: perhaps we can do this
x V DoGG x: mike you want to take charge of my role (system analyst)
x V DoGG x: since i am taking on architect
michaelwalsh327: sure.
x V DoGG x: in reality the system analyst's job is already done.... so
michaelwalsh327: exactly.
x V DoGG x: if you want you can take on the meeting leader too
x V DoGG x: and that basically means posting an agenda
kabev1: FYI: http://internet2.motlabs.com/~c s327/
x V DoGG x: and keeping things on track
x V DoGG x: and then short summaries at the end
michaelwalsh327: Tell you what; the diagrams I saaw were all handwritten. I have Visio here, and can produce some good looking design docs/diagrams.
Eceguru: we can start with that and see where we need more help as things go along
x V DoGG x: sounds good.... but i believe most of them were cleaned up ......
michaelwalsh327: How about UI?
x V DoGG x: (the new ones are at the website)
kabev1: UI is under control with Me and Vivek
x V DoGG x: what about it.... kabe & i did most of that....
x V DoGG x: its not the greates
michaelwalsh327: I guess, main thing is for me to get my hands on the latest stuff. WHere's that zip?
x V DoGG x: greatest, but it works
x V DoGG x: yeah.....
x V DoGG x: its at the website
michaelwalsh327: not bashing it, just hgadn't seen the role claimed yet.
x V DoGG x: sure
x V DoGG x: no offense taken
kabev1: http://internet2.motlabs.com/~c s327/linux_wifi.tar.gz
kabev1: I'd bash it !!! :-)
x V DoGG x: the more the merrier
x V DoGG x: hey bitch!
x V DoGG x: oops
x V DoGG x: did i hit return
x V DoGG x: anyways
kabev1: ok back on track...
Eceguru: lets keep the inside voice inside
x V DoGG x: NOTE TO MYSELF --- take this out of log
starkiller76: hw 1
x V DoGG x: it was just a joke... please don't be offended anyone....
x V DoGG x: kabe and i know each other well
x V DoGG x: anyways
x V DoGG x: yes hw1
Eceguru: we need 3 to set up the cvs
starkiller76: I can work on that
Eceguru: and 2 for the change doc right?
x V DoGG x: 3?
Eceguru: well...we have 6 now
michaelwalsh327: actually, since ther are 6 of us, we should go 3 and 3.
Eceguru: yeah
starkiller76: thats fine
kabev1: ok we have a CM doc begun, and I can get the stuff in cvs tomorrow
x V DoGG x: i can be on the cvs side
starkiller76: Are we sticking with sourceforge?
kabev1: I think sf would be best
starkiller76: fine with me
starkiller76: I just wanted to make sure we are all on the same page
kabev1: they have a good change request page also
x V DoGG x: ok
Eceguru: so we'll use sf and their request tools
kabev1: We need a change control board, I'll be on it,
Eceguru: they also have defect traqcking as well
x V DoGG x: me too - ccb
kabev1: one more?
michaelwalsh327: do we really need a ccb?
Eceguru: me
starkiller76: I wil
Eceguru: i was first
kabev1: yeah, it would be good, checks and balances
Eceguru: well, i think it'd help with the project submission
x V DoGG x: yeah
x V DoGG x: more props
Eceguru: it might just rubber stamp things but at least we'll have one
michaelwalsh327: I suppose. In terms of "do we implement this feature" though, right, not "does this code get in"
kabev1: How bout this, let's put Isaac on it and we can meet in person that way
x V DoGG x: yeah....
kabev1: ok??? Kabe Vivek, Isaac?
Eceguru: ok
x V DoGG x: good with me
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: so have we split up hw1
michaelwalsh327: out of curiosity, what was your/our project grade last semester?
x V DoGG x: so far i have vivek, kabe, on cvs
michaelwalsh327: that laves the rest of us on change control
kabev1: the base was 85
Eceguru: i'll help with the document for change control
kabev1: I'll do CVS with Vivek and???
starkiller76: me
kabev1: Dave, Kabe and Vivek
kabev1: ok
Eceguru: so we're set on that
starkiller76: yep
x V DoGG x: yes
kabev1: AS the CM, keep me in the loop with the change doc
x V DoGG x: and everyone else is on CM
x V DoGG x: ?
michaelwalsh327: Where do you guys work from? Do you all have Linux installed locally?
Eceguru: actually, works on windows
x V DoGG x: we can move to #3)
x V DoGG x: it turns out that we coded the whole thing in java
x V DoGG x: you will see.... how much different it is from the wiki
x V DoGG x: the wiki is somewhat out of date
x V DoGG x: the docs in the archive are much better
x V DoGG x: we didn't submit any part of the wiki..... except the meeting notes
starkiller76: #3
starkiller76: I will start working on an updated project plan
x V DoGG x: mike, the synopsis doc is probably the best place to start
x V DoGG x: and then you can just call me or anyone else.... and we can explain the rest
michaelwalsh327: OK. I'll try to read as much as possible over the weekend.
x V DoGG x: we usually meet mondays at 8pm
x V DoGG x: is that still good with everyone?
starkiller76: yes
kabev1: 8:30 right?
x V DoGG x: oh sorry....
x V DoGG x: 8:#0
Eceguru: i might be a few mintues late
x V DoGG x: 8:30
Eceguru: actually, would 9 be ok
x V DoGG x: yeah, its fine with me
starkiller76: 9 is fine
kabev1: ok w/ me
michaelwalsh327: monday night is fine w/ me
Eceguru: so 9 on monday it is
x V DoGG x: good
x V DoGG x: anything else for tonight?
x V DoGG x: mike - i am assuming i am still meeting leader for now?
starkiller76: I will write tonights summary
michaelwalsh327: sure, for now.
starkiller76: and post it on the wiki
x V DoGG x: ok
starkiller76: tomorrow
michaelwalsh327: I don't want to set agendas until I'm a little more familiar with project.
x V DoGG x: cool.... thanks dave
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: sounds good
Eceguru: sounds good all
kabev1: sounds good, Mike if you have any questions, let me know
michaelwalsh327: Thanks, guys.
x V DoGG x: cool
x V DoGG x: see you guys are later
kabev1: all right, I'm out
Eceguru: bye
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michaelwalsh327: So, eceguru, are you Isaac?
michaelwalsh327: ahh, missed him
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