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Eceguru: hi
starkiller76: hey
x V DoGG x has entered the room.
x V DoGG x: ok....
se2srini: hello all
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michaelwalsh327: is kabe available tonight?
gorclon1: yah
gorclon1: yeah
x V DoGG x: yeah
x V DoGG x: he is signing off/on
x V DoGG x: cuz we can't see him
x V DoGG x: i just called him
gorclon1: he's re-connecting
x V DoGG x: i was just over by him a few minutes ago
michaelwalsh327: OK. DId you guys get my email?
starkiller76: yeah
se2srini: yes
michaelwalsh327: ok, just making sure it went out.
x V DoGG x: agenda
x V DoGG x: 1) Project schedule
michaelwalsh327: 2) Homework 2 metrics
x V DoGG x: kabe is having trouble with AIM
x V DoGG x: he is walking over to my desk
michaelwalsh327: 0) Meeeting time
gorclon1: want to change our meeting time?
Eceguru: to what?
Eceguru: i find this time to be good
michaelwalsh327: well, I notice that most of us are online long before the meeting starts, I was wondering if we should push it back a bit.
gorclon1: we could
michaelwalsh327: I'm fine where it is, but was basically hanging out waiting to start.
gorclon1: ah I see
Eceguru: i'm usually signed on but not ready
Eceguru: like i'll sign on while eating and stuff
se2srini: any time after 8 is no problem for me
gorclon1: after 8 is good for me as well
Eceguru: i'd prefer to keep it at this time
gorclon1: (such as right now)
michaelwalsh327: ahh, let's leave it.
salcs329: I am PST ... Sometimes I am late getting back from work
se2srini: ok
starkiller76: 9 is fine with me
x V DoGG x: issac - said he had a class before this
x V DoGG x: ok....
Eceguru: yeah, i go get my butt kicked till around 8:30
x V DoGG x: 0.1) Kabe & I have to leave by 9:35ish.... to get out of our building before the door locks
x V DoGG x: 1)
x V DoGG x: http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/SEcours e/WifiLinux-Schedule
x V DoGG x: goto this page
x V DoGG x: and let me know when everyone is there
michaelwalsh327: there
x V DoGG x: dave & i put together a projected schedule
x V DoGG x: based on some guesses
salcs329: there
Eceguru: there
starkiller76: there
se2srini: there
x V DoGG x: how does it look?
x V DoGG x: we need to add names to it
michaelwalsh327: looks fine; are there any other tasks that can start before search is completed?
Eceguru: i think search will take longer than downloading
starkiller76: that is really where we need to begin
Eceguru: i think mike was refering to having other people start on other features
michaelwalsh327: exactly.
michaelwalsh327: parallel processing, as it were.
x V DoGG x: yeah, well....
starkiller76: use config
se2srini: My experience is more on backend than GUI. Do you have anything related to just backend?
x V DoGG x: the dependanies are on search
starkiller76: user config
x V DoGG x: for most except user config
michaelwalsh327: that's fine, those not devlopeing will just do non-code tasks.
se2srini: Well! I would like to contribute on both ends
x V DoGG x: yeah.... but i think everyone should code at some point
x V DoGG x: while you aren't coding
starkiller76: everyone will code
michaelwalsh327: oh, of course.
x V DoGG x: you can do "non-coding" docs
Eceguru: i agree
starkiller76: this plan is a starting point
starkiller76: it will evolve based on reality
x V DoGG x: yeah
se2srini: Is there any room in the plan to fix existing bugs... not that I noticed any
x V DoGG x: should we start attaching names
Eceguru: we can try it and see how it goes
x V DoGG x: any volunteers
x V DoGG x: ?
gorclon1: bug fixes can occure parallel to this scheduel maybe?
x V DoGG x: yeah, sure....
michaelwalsh327: Oh, that's a good point., Are we calling the Auto-Detect use case complete?
x V DoGG x: yeah, to a point.....
michaelwalsh327: what point is that?
starkiller76: members not developing, can be assigned to refactoring
x V DoGG x: use case works in the most generic sense
x V DoGG x: but we need to integrate with download and make it look nice
x V DoGG x: ryan, isaac, mike, srini, and isaac - any of you want to attach search?
michaelwalsh327: I guess main point is, are we calling it a released component that peopl.e can log bugs/change requests against?
Eceguru: i'll take it up
x V DoGG x: i have some scheduling constraints that make that first deadline impossible.... so i havn't volunteered myself
starkiller76: I want to work on search
x V DoGG x: kabe, I, and dave have done some coding already... so we want to give others a chance as well
starkiller76: thats fair
x V DoGG x: kabe is on user configuration
starkiller76: If anybody has questions on JXTA let me know
Eceguru: i think it might take a little longer to do
Eceguru: but i'm up for trying
michaelwalsh327: I'm not ready to be useful coding yet today, but would be before the completion date.
michaelwalsh327: so I was thinking I'dattack other areas and start coding the next module.
x V DoGG x: ok so far we have isaac
se2srini: I'll be busy travelling and working on project release until 24th. But I still can contribute after that.
x V DoGG x: i think the easiest way to get caught up (as long as you know java) is to just dive in
Eceguru: anyone else?
x V DoGG x: so dave can jump on too
x V DoGG x: from his previous comment
michaelwalsh327: ok, if nobody else is jumping in, I am.
x V DoGG x: dave & isaac
gorclon1: Well, I should dive in on search as well,
x V DoGG x: and mike
x V DoGG x: cool
starkiller76: I will
x V DoGG x: done
x V DoGG x: i will add it to the wiki
salcs329: I am new to Java.. done plenty of C++.. Can you suggest a module for me to work on..
x V DoGG x: everyone should sign up later this week
x V DoGG x: to the rest of the tasks
x V DoGG x: so we don't have to go through this next time
michaelwalsh327: ryan, paul and I all jmped at once - one of you guys want to take this first one?
se2srini: until the next iteration starts I can do the "User Configuration"
michaelwalsh327: I think nI meant Dave. You guys and your confusing-a$$ screen names.
x V DoGG x: srini - kabe is already on that
se2srini: ok
x V DoGG x: user config is one single person all the way through
x V DoGG x: i have updated the wiki
se2srini: ok no problem. What else do we have to choose from
se2srini: I'll also join Manual download
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: so who is on Search?
michaelwalsh327: like you have it
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: sweet
x V DoGG x: lets move on
x V DoGG x: refresh your web browsers
x V DoGG x: its more up to date now
x V DoGG x: and add the rest later this week
x V DoGG x: mike - go ahead with #2
michaelwalsh327: OK, you guys were going to meet.
michaelwalsh327: WHat metrics did you come up with, and did you take some of ours?
x V DoGG x: ummm
x V DoGG x: basically it came down to:
gorclon1: uh oh
x V DoGG x: LOCC, Class COunt, Method Count, Martins, and....
gorclon1: LOCMethod CountClass CountAfferent CouplingEfferent CouplingInstability# of Abstract ClassesDistance from the Main Sequence
gorclon1: we are going to add a few more
se2srini: Are you using JDepend?
se2srini: Thats the only one I found for Martins
michaelwalsh327: yea, that looked like a good Matrin metric tool
starkiller76: We are using the Marting
starkiller76: I mean
starkiller76: Martin Metrics
x V DoGG x: the others we were considering were: totalnumberofsubstypes and totalnumberofsupertypes
starkiller76: The application is called RefactorIT
x V DoGG x: does that screw you guys up at all?
x V DoGG x: and we are using jMetra
michaelwalsh327: No, I don't think so. The only conflicts are the children and parentt counts, which I didn't mind losing, and LOCMethod, but we'll use cyclomatic complexity for our metrics.
x V DoGG x: kabe and i gotta get going soon
se2srini: I guess that still leaves us enough to measure
gorclon1: It's ok to overlap a little
michaelwalsh327: yep, but looks like we won't have to.
x V DoGG x: the LOCC, Class COunt, Method Count are all run over all versions of the code
x V DoGG x: thus they are temporal in nature
se2srini: yup
michaelwalsh327: as beauty.
x V DoGG x: yes, i like that word
x V DoGG x: i will use it
michaelwalsh327: OK, if nothing else, why don't you guys go;l group 2 is meeting after this anyway.
x V DoGG x: ok
x V DoGG x: cool
starkiller76: btw
x V DoGG x: and the three that are tasked with search
starkiller76: you guys should check out RefactorIT if you have a chance
x V DoGG x: we will start making the tasks agenda items
starkiller76: It is pretty slick
x V DoGG x: to get updates on how things are going
x V DoGG x: based on start dates
starkiller76: http://www.refactorit.com/
michaelwalsh327: looked at it a bit; are you still using RevJava?
x V DoGG x: yes that too
michaelwalsh327: ok
gorclon1: yeah, we ran revjava
michaelwalsh327: ok, we done?
gorclon1: I think so
se2srini: good night guys
starkiller76: later
gorclon1: night
michaelwalsh327: ok. group 2 will meet in another room, so this meeting can be preserved by itself.
michaelwalsh327: Vivek, are you posting this transcript?
starkiller76: I will
x V DoGG x: yes